Growth and development

[Tanya Berardini]

Radio silence from me because I'm on holiday.  Just checking in now to get
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, J Clark wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Yes I see what you mean.
>
> Currently we have
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> [i]cellular physiological process
> ---[i]cell division
> ---[i]cell proliferation
>
> cell division
> def: The processes resulting in the physical partitioning
> and separation of a cell into daughter cells.
>
> cell proliferation
> def: The multiplication or reproduction of cells, resulting
> in the rapid expansion of a cell population.
>
> This could become:
>
> [i]cellular physiological process
> ---[i]cell proliferation
> ------[p]cell division
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> cell proliferation
> def: The multiplication or reproduction of cells, occuring
> as a consequence of multiple cell division events, resulting
> in the expansion of a cell population.
>
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> That way we lose the word 'rapid', but keep the distinction
> between cell division and cell proliferation.
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> Would that seem like a plan? I'll post it in the sourceforge
> item.
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> Thanks,
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> David Hill wrote:
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> > Hi Jen,
> >
> > The structure at the bottom looks good to me. I can't really think of
> > how to deal with the multiple part-of relationships, but I think they
> > are true. As for cell proliferation, I don't think it really matters if
> > the word rapid is in the definition or not, since everyone can have a
> > different view of rapid. I think the distinction between cell
> > proliferation and cell division is a difference between an individual
> > cell and a generic representation of cells. In that way, cell division
> > could be a part of cell proliferation.
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> > J Clark wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Pascale,
> >>
> >> I've put in a new sourceforge request to get comments on that and I'll
> >> implement in a week if nobody objects.
> >>
> >> 1219649    cell proliferation
> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1219649&group_id=36855&atid=440764
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jen
> >>
> >> Pascale Gaudet wrote:
> >>
> >>> This all looks good to me.
> >>>
> >>> One other thing is about the definition of cell proliferation, which
> >>> currently is "The multiplication or reproduction of cells, resulting
> >>> in the rapid expansion of a cell population." Can we remove "rapid"?
> >>> and have "The multiplication or reproduction of cells, resulting in
> >>> the expansion of a cell population."
> >>> ??
> >>>
> >>> (this may be relevant for people not on the development list)
> >>>
> >>> Pascale
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 05:12 PM 6/10/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Growth and Development proposal:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) The term growth will be moved out from under development to be a
> >>>> sibling instead.
> >>>>
> >>>> Current structure:
> >>>>
> >>>> [i]development
> >>>> ---[i] growth
> >>>>
> >>>> With new structure:
> >>>>
> >>>> [i]biological process
> >>>> ---[i]growth
> >>>> ---[i]development
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) integrate new concepts:
> >>>>
> >>>> Term:developmental growth of a unicellular organism
> >>>> def: The growth of a single celled organism prior to division, where
> >>>> growth is aimed at the progression of the organism over time from
> >>>> one condition to another.
> >>>>
> >>>> term: non-developmental growth of a unicellular organism
> >>>> def: The growth of a single celled organism prior to division, where
> >>>> the growth does not change the organism from  one condition to
> >>>> another condition over time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Term: developmental growth
> >>>> def: The increase in size or mass of an entire organism, a part of
> >>>> an organism or a cell, where the increase in size or mass is aimed
> >>>> at the progression of the organism over time from one condition to
> >>>> another.
> >>>>
> >>>> Term: non-developmental growth
> >>>> def: The increase in size or mass of an entire organism, a part of
> >>>> an organism or a cell, where the increase in size or mass is not
> >>>> aimed at the progression of the organism over time from one
> >>>> condition to another.
> >>>>
> >>>> [i]biological process ; GO:0000004
> >>>> ---[i]development ; GO:0007275
> >>>> ------[p]cell development ; GO:0048468
> >>>> ---------[p]developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>> ------[p]developmental growth ; GO:new
> >>>> ---------[i]developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>> ---[i]growth ; GO:0040007
> >>>> ------[i]non-developmental growth ; GO:new
> >>>> ---------[i]non-developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>> ------[i]developmental growth ; GO:new
> >>>> ---------[i]developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>> ------[i]cell growth ; GO:0016049
> >>>> ---------[i]developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>> ---------[i]non-developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>>
> >>>> also
> >>>>
> >>>> [i]cellular physiological process ; GO:0050875
> >>>> ---[i]cell proliferation ; GO:0008283
> >>>> ------[p]developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>> ------[p]non-developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This additional parentage means that
> >>>>
> >>>> developmental growth of a unicellular organism ; GO:new
> >>>>
> >>>> is part_of both
> >>>>
> >>>> cell proliferation ; GO:0008283
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> cell development ; GO:0048468
> >>>>
> >>>> and terms are not allowed to have to part_of parents.
> >>>> I don't see a way out of that right now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anybody have any thoughts on that?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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