Growth and development

J Clark jclark at ebi.ac.uk
Wed May 25 06:51:28 PDT 2005


Hi Pascale,

> I am not sure why we need the 'prior to division' bit??

True. :-)

'unicellular organism growth' then?

as a child of 'cell growth'?

Jen

> 
> At 02:20 PM 5/25/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pascale,
>>
>> Yes that seems like a good plan. I could add that parentage.
>>
>> Do you think the term string is okay as it is or could we have a less 
>> clunky version?
>>
>> Jen
>>
>> Pascale Gaudet wrote:
>>
>>> Jennifer,
>>> This may be a bit off topic, but how does this term relates to 'cell 
>>> proliferation'? In the case of Dictyostelium, unicellular organism 
>>> growth should probably be a child of cell proliferation (if the 
>>> definition of cell proliferation gets fixed to remove the "rapid 
>>> expansion" bit).
>>> Pascale
>>>
>>> At 03:05 PM 5/24/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've written to Chris several times over the last few weeks to ask 
>>>> if he agrees with this proposal and I think he must just be too busy 
>>>> to get back to us. In order not to hold things up any longer I 
>>>> propose now to implement the proposal below (previous e-mail) in 
>>>> some form.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any ideas for the term strings and sensu taxa for 
>>>> these terms?
>>>>
>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division    (sensu x)
>>>> exact_synonym: unicellular organism developmental growth
>>>> prior to division
>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>> organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>> growth _is_ part of development.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>> (sensu y)
>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>> organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>> growth _is_not_ part of development.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J Clark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have rewritten the proposal clarifying the two terms of interest.
>>>>> Does this seem like a better representation?
>>>>> If it does then would Chris be happy with the use of a sensu 
>>>>> designation so high up in the DAG?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jen
>>>>>
>>>>> Proposal:
>>>>> Currently we are saying that some species research groups that 
>>>>> study single celled organisms
>>>>> define the relationship between growth and development
>>>>> differently from other species research groups.
>>>>> e.g. one group may say that the growth that occurs prior to
>>>>>  division of the single celled organsim is developmental growth 
>>>>> (e.g. pombe),
>>>>> whilst other research groups say that that kind of growth is
>>>>> not developmental growth (e.g. dicty).
>>>>> The way we're suggesting we'll deal with this is to represent
>>>>> individual instances of growth according to the view of the
>>>>> relevant research community and that we'll clarify things by
>>>>> adding synonyms. If a term 'x growth' needs to have a
>>>>> development parent as well as a growth parent then I add an
>>>>> exact synonym 'x developmental growth'. If a term 'x growth'
>>>>> does not need a development parent then it does not get the
>>>>> synonym. It seems to me that we might also need a sensu term
>>>>> as follows:
>>>>> [i]development
>>>>> ---[p]developmental growth
>>>>> ------[i]unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>          (sensu x)
>>>>> [i]growth
>>>>> ---[i]unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>       (sensu y)
>>>>> ---[i]developmental growth
>>>>>
>>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>       (sensu x)
>>>>> exact_synonym: unicellular organism developmental growth
>>>>>              prior to division
>>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>> organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>> growth _is_ part of development.
>>>>>
>>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>       (sensu y)
>>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>> organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>> growth _is_not_ part of development.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>>>> Gene Ontology Consortium,
>>>> and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>>>> http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>> Gene Ontology Consortium,
>> and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>> http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
> 
> 
> 

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and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
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