Growth and development

[J Clark]

Cool. What d'y think about the defs? Also I guess we use 
sensu Dictyosteliida for one but I'm not really sure about 
the other.

How about sensu Schizosaccharomyces? Val said that as a 
pombe person she was happy to consider this kind of growth 
as part of development.

Thanks,

Jen

Pascale Gaudet wrote:

> Sounds good to me!
> 
> At 02:51 PM 5/25/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pascale,
>>
>>> I am not sure why we need the 'prior to division' bit??
>>
>>
>> True. :-)
>>
>> 'unicellular organism growth' then?
>>
>> as a child of 'cell growth'?
>>
>> Jen
>>
>>> At 02:20 PM 5/25/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pascale,
>>>>
>>>> Yes that seems like a good plan. I could add that parentage.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think the term string is okay as it is or could we have a 
>>>> less clunky version?
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>>
>>>> Pascale Gaudet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jennifer,
>>>>> This may be a bit off topic, but how does this term relates to 
>>>>> 'cell proliferation'? In the case of Dictyostelium, unicellular 
>>>>> organism growth should probably be a child of cell proliferation 
>>>>> (if the definition of cell proliferation gets fixed to remove the 
>>>>> "rapid expansion" bit).
>>>>> Pascale
>>>>>
>>>>> At 03:05 PM 5/24/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've written to Chris several times over the last few weeks to ask 
>>>>>> if he agrees with this proposal and I think he must just be too 
>>>>>> busy to get back to us. In order not to hold things up any longer 
>>>>>> I propose now to implement the proposal below (previous e-mail) in 
>>>>>> some form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody have any ideas for the term strings and sensu taxa 
>>>>>> for these terms?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division    (sensu x)
>>>>>> exact_synonym: unicellular organism developmental growth
>>>>>> prior to division
>>>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>>> organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>>> growth _is_ part of development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>> (sensu y)
>>>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>>> organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>>> growth _is_not_ part of development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J Clark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I have rewritten the proposal clarifying the two terms of interest.
>>>>>>> Does this seem like a better representation?
>>>>>>> If it does then would Chris be happy with the use of a sensu 
>>>>>>> designation so high up in the DAG?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Proposal:
>>>>>>> Currently we are saying that some species research groups that 
>>>>>>> study single celled organisms
>>>>>>> define the relationship between growth and development
>>>>>>> differently from other species research groups.
>>>>>>> e.g. one group may say that the growth that occurs prior to
>>>>>>>  division of the single celled organsim is developmental growth 
>>>>>>> (e.g. pombe),
>>>>>>> whilst other research groups say that that kind of growth is
>>>>>>> not developmental growth (e.g. dicty).
>>>>>>> The way we're suggesting we'll deal with this is to represent
>>>>>>> individual instances of growth according to the view of the
>>>>>>> relevant research community and that we'll clarify things by
>>>>>>> adding synonyms. If a term 'x growth' needs to have a
>>>>>>> development parent as well as a growth parent then I add an
>>>>>>> exact synonym 'x developmental growth'. If a term 'x growth'
>>>>>>> does not need a development parent then it does not get the
>>>>>>> synonym. It seems to me that we might also need a sensu term
>>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>>> [i]development
>>>>>>> ---[p]developmental growth
>>>>>>> ------[i]unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>          (sensu x)
>>>>>>> [i]growth
>>>>>>> ---[i]unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>       (sensu y)
>>>>>>> ---[i]developmental growth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>       (sensu x)
>>>>>>> exact_synonym: unicellular organism developmental growth
>>>>>>>              prior to division
>>>>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, 
>>>>>>> for organisms whose research community considers that that kind 
>>>>>>> of growth _is_ part of development.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>       (sensu y)
>>>>>>> def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, 
>>>>>>> for organisms whose research community considers that that kind 
>>>>>>> of growth _is_not_ part of development.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>>>>>> Gene Ontology Consortium,
>>>>>> and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>>>>>> http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>>>> Gene Ontology Consortium,
>>>> and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>>>> http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>> Gene Ontology Consortium,
>> and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>> http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
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and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
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