Growth and development

[Pascale Gaudet]

I thought since the definition included " for organisms whose research 
community considers that that kind of growth _is_ part (or is_not_part) of 
development.", we didn't need sensu terms. I would be happy to share this 
term with other organisms!

Maybe in the comments you can add the different species that consider 
unicellular organism growth part of/not part of development, and not add 
sensu terms?

Pascale


At 03:18 PM 5/25/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>Cool. What d'y think about the defs? Also I guess we use sensu 
>Dictyosteliida for one but I'm not really sure about the other.
>
>How about sensu Schizosaccharomyces? Val said that as a pombe person she 
>was happy to consider this kind of growth as part of development.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jen
>
>Pascale Gaudet wrote:
>
>>Sounds good to me!
>>At 02:51 PM 5/25/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Pascale,
>>>
>>>>I am not sure why we need the 'prior to division' bit??
>>>
>>>
>>>True. :-)
>>>
>>>'unicellular organism growth' then?
>>>
>>>as a child of 'cell growth'?
>>>
>>>Jen
>>>
>>>>At 02:20 PM 5/25/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Pascale,
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes that seems like a good plan. I could add that parentage.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you think the term string is okay as it is or could we have a less 
>>>>>clunky version?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jen
>>>>>
>>>>>Pascale Gaudet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jennifer,
>>>>>>This may be a bit off topic, but how does this term relates to 'cell 
>>>>>>proliferation'? In the case of Dictyostelium, unicellular organism 
>>>>>>growth should probably be a child of cell proliferation (if the 
>>>>>>definition of cell proliferation gets fixed to remove the "rapid 
>>>>>>expansion" bit).
>>>>>>Pascale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 03:05 PM 5/24/2005 +0100, J Clark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've written to Chris several times over the last few weeks to ask 
>>>>>>>if he agrees with this proposal and I think he must just be too busy 
>>>>>>>to get back to us. In order not to hold things up any longer I 
>>>>>>>propose now to implement the proposal below (previous e-mail) in some form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anybody have any ideas for the term strings and sensu taxa for 
>>>>>>>these terms?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division    (sensu x)
>>>>>>>exact_synonym: unicellular organism developmental growth
>>>>>>>prior to division
>>>>>>>def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>>>>organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>>>>growth _is_ part of development.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>(sensu y)
>>>>>>>def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>>>>organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>>>>growth _is_not_ part of development.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>J Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>I have rewritten the proposal clarifying the two terms of interest.
>>>>>>>>Does this seem like a better representation?
>>>>>>>>If it does then would Chris be happy with the use of a sensu 
>>>>>>>>designation so high up in the DAG?
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Jen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Proposal:
>>>>>>>>Currently we are saying that some species research groups that 
>>>>>>>>study single celled organisms
>>>>>>>>define the relationship between growth and development
>>>>>>>>differently from other species research groups.
>>>>>>>>e.g. one group may say that the growth that occurs prior to
>>>>>>>>  division of the single celled organsim is developmental growth 
>>>>>>>> (e.g. pombe),
>>>>>>>>whilst other research groups say that that kind of growth is
>>>>>>>>not developmental growth (e.g. dicty).
>>>>>>>>The way we're suggesting we'll deal with this is to represent
>>>>>>>>individual instances of growth according to the view of the
>>>>>>>>relevant research community and that we'll clarify things by
>>>>>>>>adding synonyms. If a term 'x growth' needs to have a
>>>>>>>>development parent as well as a growth parent then I add an
>>>>>>>>exact synonym 'x developmental growth'. If a term 'x growth'
>>>>>>>>does not need a development parent then it does not get the
>>>>>>>>synonym. It seems to me that we might also need a sensu term
>>>>>>>>as follows:
>>>>>>>>[i]development
>>>>>>>>---[p]developmental growth
>>>>>>>>------[i]unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>>          (sensu x)
>>>>>>>>[i]growth
>>>>>>>>---[i]unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>>       (sensu y)
>>>>>>>>---[i]developmental growth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>>       (sensu x)
>>>>>>>>exact_synonym: unicellular organism developmental growth
>>>>>>>>              prior to division
>>>>>>>>def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>>>>>organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>>>>>growth _is_ part of development.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Term: unicellular organism growth prior to division
>>>>>>>>       (sensu y)
>>>>>>>>def: The growth of single celled organisms, prior to division, for 
>>>>>>>>organisms whose research community considers that that kind of 
>>>>>>>>growth _is_not_ part of development.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>>>>>>>Gene Ontology Consortium,
>>>>>>>and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>>>>>>>http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>>>>>Gene Ontology Consortium,
>>>>>and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>>>>>http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>>>Gene Ontology Consortium,
>>>and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>>>http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/
>>
>
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>EMBL - European Bioinformatics Institute,
>Gene Ontology Consortium,
>and Wolfson College, Cambridge.
>http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~jclark/