[go] Paper of potential interest to you
David Hill
dph at informatics.jax.org
Wed Aug 8 06:45:32 PDT 2007
Yes, my take on this paper was that the biggest thing it showed was that
we need more curators!
Valerie Wood wrote:
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> Yes it would be more interesting to see a paper which showed the
> number of papers read and the number of annotations made vs the number
> of curators (which I doubt has increased much over time). That would
> be more eye-opening :) I think most people assume that there is some
> sort of 'curation army' somewhere.
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> camon at ebi.ac.uk wrote:
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>> Hi Val,
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>> The GOA group ( and therefore UniProtKB) do not integrate ISS or IEA
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>> other GOC members at the moment. UniProtKB/Swiss-Prot shows all
>> manual GO
>> annotation (minus ND), filtered by source, UniProtKB shows manual and
>> IEA
>> annotations.
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>> One of our colleagues made some comments on this paper:
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>> 'the real question that need to be asked is if manual curation
>> capable of
>> keeping up with the growth in biological knowlege (not the growth in
>> sequences). If a curator annotates a protein in a model organism, or an
>> InterPro family, or a protien with a novel function, they are doing
>> so in
>> the belief that they are making (at some level) a generic statement, not
>> just annotating one of the billions of sequences that happen to
>> exist. Observing the continued existence of unannotated (and frequently,
>> according to the current scientific knowlege, unannotable) things is of
>> very little importance: what matters is how much real, transferrable
>> knowledge is recorded in the databases.
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>> and they don't even consider that an annotation may or may not be
>> correct,
>> and may or may not be useful. it would be easy to increase metrics of
>> coverage by adding wrong and/or high level GO terms to every protein'
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>> It's a shame we were not contacted before publication, im not sure that
>> these papers help the curation effort already hugely understaffed.
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>> Evelyn
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>>> Mike Cherry wrote:
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>>>> Manual curation is not sufficient for annotation of genomic databases
>>>> William A. Baumgartner, Jr, K. Bretonnel Cohen, Lynne M. Fox, George
>>>> Acquaah-Mensah, and Lawrence Hunter
>>>> Bioinformatics 2007 23: i41-i48.
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>>>> http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/13/
>>>> i41?etoc
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>>> This was interesting. Before we all decide its a losing battle, it's
>>> not
>>> quite so doom and gloom as this analysis suggests.
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>>> By using mouse and fly they chose the 2 models with the single greatest
>>> volume of data. It would have been nice to see the combined progress of
>>> the GO curated organisms vs. non GO curated organisms (rather than
>>> mouse, fly and then the entire Uniprot knowledge base)
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>>> Using this criteria (at least one GO annotation) they would have
>>> identified a 'best case scenario' (left graph of figure one') for both
>>> budding and fission yeasts.
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>>> However, using these methods, they would never show a 'best case
>>> scenario' of GO annotation for ANY organism because they extracted the
>>> GO data from the Uniprot records (at least this is what they say in the
>>> methods), and Uniprot don't include ISS/IC/NAS/TAS/ or most importantly
>>> for this analysis ND (I think that is correct isn't it Emily?)
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>>> And as they mention one reviewer pointed out, it is impossible here to
>>> differentiate between a rate limiting factor of the rate of annotation
>>> and the rate of discovery, or the relative contributions of either.
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>>> As an evaluation of GO coverage it would have been more informative if
>>> they had used all the GO data. But its difficult to provide an analysis
>>> of curation completion unless you know what is known.....
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