[Ontology-editors] new system for citing Wikipedia (Re: Wikipedia)

[Karen Christie]

Sorry if I missed something on this thread. I thought we were just talking 
about having crosslinks, as general dbxrefs, to the corresponding 
Wikipedia pages. I have no objection to having crosslinks to Wikipedia, 
and think being able to pull in Wikipedia info or link to it from AmiGO is 
all good.

However, I really don't think that we should be citing Wikipedia as the 
source for our definitions. I'm not even saying that the Wikipedia pages 
are bad, and they may be very helpful in finding appropriate references. 
But I think that the things cited in definition dbxrefs as the source of 
the definition should be published.

-Karen


On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, David Hill wrote:

>
>> I suspect that sort of thing happens when the CC term and the assembly term 
>> are done by different people at different times.
> Just a comment that this is in general bad practice. We should always try to 
> look for existing references within the ontology when we are creating new 
> terms. This becomes even more important when we roll out cross-products.
>
> David
>> I hardly ever use Wikipedia, unless I can't find suitable papers easily, 
>> but some other editors have a lower threshold for going to wikipedia. Don't 
>> know if it's much of a problem.
>> 
>> m
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Chris Mungall wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Midori!
>>> 
>>> I notice "exocyst" has the xref at the term level, and "exocyst assembly" 
>>> has the Exocyst page at the def-xref level. What's the policy here? It 
>>> seems odd to source the def of the assembly term from wikipedia page 
>>> (which largely describes the structure and function but not the assembly), 
>>> but not for the CC itself.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Midori Harris wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I've taken this idea and run with it:
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Chris Mungall wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I propose that the wikipedia xrefs goes in as IDspace Wikipedia: rather 
>>>>> than a full URL - I've already taken the liberty of adding this to 
>>>>> GO.xrf_abbs
>>>> 
>>>> Because Chris has added Wikipedia to GO.xrf_abbs, we no longer have to 
>>>> put URLs in definition dbxrefs if we want to cite Wikipedia as a def 
>>>> source. Instead, citations should now be in the form 
>>>> 'Wikipedia:Page_name'.
>>>> 
>>>> In OBO-Edit, put 'Wikipedia' in the 'Database' field and the page name, 
>>>> as it appears at the end of the URL, in the 'ID' field.
>>>> 
>>>> I've converted the existing Wikipedia def dbxrefs to the new format, and 
>>>> filled in lots of missing page names as well. One nice thing about the 
>>>> new system is that it forces us to include the page name.
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> m
>>>> 
>>> 
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